Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-24108228-20140529230656/@comment-24384666-20140531002952

Sorry for the broken Table of Contents, I had to re-edit the post to fix it.

NoBanana's Quote
NoBanana wrote:

If you vote the last one I want a reason otherwise I'll disregard it. I have a feeling we have sock-puppets that people made so they could post "BURN ET DOWN" in all the polls. '''You're making me laugh, that's you, you just described yourself. You even said that you criticise people's opinions and suggestions. So like, you're describing yourself in here.'''

TL;DR
Okay so, I hate this... I have a feeling it will not succeed. Remember the last thread you made about "Farming and Cooking", it got trashed by Scarfacial. He was all like "Let's turn this into cooking with Daisy.". I laugh out louded. And left the thread to die... and here is it, in a hole. Let's not also forget Chief's post enforcing the "Rules of Suggesting". Now, what you just made now my kind sir, is a copy of it. So like no, and no, with a great big NO.

In-detail with Points
1. You can't go wrong with Chief's rules "It has to have a use" and "It has to add something into the game" rather than just squish the 'Hunger being a problem' further into the dirt. I thought that's what you said last time when you was criticizing someone's post, didn't you? Great you're a hypocrite, now look, I'm not insulting you, that's just my opinion.

2. After we have looked into Chief's rules, I want a reasonable answer for this. Now here is my second point, it's a copy of the last thread you made. It's just talking about Hunger, you have to talk about other things. Take Chemistry for example. What the hell, this skill is nearly the most useless skill unless you are a professional looking for bombs and poison, which is really uncommon. Sorry for off-topic about Chemistry. Anyways, the idea will fail, I want it to die. DIE NEAR ME NOW IDEA OR I'LL KILL YOU MYSELF WITH MY WORDS (Instead of 'With my Knife').

3. It's stupid, I know I'm just simulating what I said in the TL;DR and what I said in point two, but I don't seem to care about this idea or how it's actually formed. As it lacks many points. And if not, then it lacks information, recipes, requirements.

Criticizing all the Contents
I'm criticizing every point now, every type of chocolate, stuff. OK, I'll start.

Chocolate
Seriously? It's pointless, just no. I don't seem to want it in here. And I'll explain further details in the next few points. Plus not to forget the fact that` you're ignoring many rules, regulations, administrator's posts... etc, and the list goes on.

Cocoa Pod
You didn't actually specify many details, is it edible? What's the exact location of the trees? And by exact I mean EXACT. And the list goes on. Other stuff need fixing, the farming should be raised. The Chocolate itself is really over-powered. I suggest raising to Farming skill of Seven.

The size is butthurt, no offense. It have to be in the size of a S;Beginning's Banana.

Cocoa Beans
So like, I agree with this thing if the idea itself is going to be implemented.

But no to the size, lets make it 2x4x2. The original size of a Cocoa Pod, the one that you suggested.

Chocolates
Four varieties? Heck, what are you talking about. This will take Chocolate to more of a "FarmN'Cook2Win", and also squishes the 'hunger being a problem' further into the dirt. This will be more like the Bread varities, the Cheese varieties... etc, and the list goes on. So like, no. I also suggest the Milk Chocolate and the Drinking Chocolate removed. Even though I suggest to remove them, and that I have already read them. I'm still going to comment, possibily criticize, them.

Dark Chocolate
Despite the title. I said this because you are talking about realism, proof is that that you said it does fit the timeframe on a side note, or something.

Why to despite it? Because well, dark chocolate does not actually taste good in real life. It is not sugary, which means the fact that we have to lower the Hunger it gives.

Let's compare this to gameplay. It will be completely wrong, you'll see.

First. It's REALLY easy to create since you are just going to Teraphyx with your skills in the skills board, farm a tree, turn it into stuff, poof. And then a real tasty snack worth 150 Hunger points appear out of no-where. I see what you did there, black majik!

What I'm trying to simulate and say in this post is that the concept itself is wrong. If the Cocoa Pod is edible, then it should have about 25 Hunger points at max, since it's found naturally.

Second, you just keep turning the SAME thing into other stuff over and over, it is pointless. But it the same time it gives more Hunger! So like, I see what you did them. You mixed the real small edible stuff that gives 25 Hunger points with black majik (nothing), POOF! Comes out 150 Hunger. Notice I was being ironic and describing your idea with sarcasm.

If I'm going to give constructive criticism. Then I suggest increasing the amount of Cocoa Beans to four. And the skill requirements a bit higher, maybe six. And last but not least, the hunger it gives should be lowered to atleast 100 Hunger points over-all. So the recipe would be;

Cocoa Beans + Cocoa Beans + Cocoa Beans + Cocoa Beans + (ADD SOMETHING YOU WANT) > Create Item = Dark Chocolate Cooking 6

Chocolate
Firstly, I'm going to compare this to real life, and see what happens. Chocolate is actually bad in real life, some people of different audiences may have problems with Chocolate. Actually people of all ages enjoy it, but it still gives some bad stuff, such as the teeth hurting. Comparing this to the game would be like this; Hunger per Portion: 50 Hunger Points Given: 150 Health Loss: 10 per Portion So no, just no. But let me give it some constructive criticism.

I'm going to suggest stuff for adding or changing to the existing idea. feel free to criticise this section, even though it's just an add-on to the existing sub-suggestion that NoBanana posted!

Okay here, I suggest slightly nerfing the hunger value it gives, maybe 200 Hunger points over-all. And the skill requirements, maybe Cooking skill level seven because I buffed the Hunger points. Maybe also increase the Cocoa Beans to three, maybe four, even five to make it harder so you don't forage a whole tree and in return get 200 Hunger points. If you're wondering why I suddenly buffed the Hunger points given. It's because I rememeber that the Apple Pie needs leve five cooking to make, and this takes cooking five, or six, maybe seven if you even agree to my suggestion. So like, it will be overpowered if we do this. But going out with the other stuff... I seem to not have a real steady decision.

So the final thing would be like this;

Cocoa Beans + Cocoa Beans + Cocoa Beans + Cocoa Beans + Milk > Create Item = Chocolate Cooking 6 Hunger points Given: 150

Milk and Drinking Chocolate
Because I'm too lazy to comment on those, I'll be doing it later, It's really easy to criticize those, but from the easiness, I won't be doing it. That might sound stupid, but it's because that there is too many points that are wrong in there, and all of them needs real huge typing, I could write a single text wall 2x the size of this one about those two real wrong Chocolate types. Oh well if you want me to do it now... just say and I'll be getting to it. Sooooooooooo. Now what? Oh yea, the other stuff. Okay let me do quick-constructive-commenting-criticism. But for the next one, I may or may be not copy-pasting NoBanana's text above and criticising every point in it. I'll do it the custom way.

Why this should be added
Now, to be really honest, the main reason I started formulating a new suggestion on chocolate was to move the forum activity away from all the little arguments we are having over at the "Unrealistic Stuff" thread, which is currently dominating the forum activity. '''Okay I agree, but even though you do... this one may still take voer the forum activity, really. OK, I don't know what happened to me. I'm now criticising a side note... lol'd'''

However, the more I wrote, the more I realised this was a great (and needed) aspect to the game. '''WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?!?!? I WILL NOT FORGIVE YOU FOR SAYING THAT, I SWEAR!'''

Firstly, it gives rise to the underused farming skill. Its "Child Skill" cooking hardly needs it, with wheat being plentiful, and berries/apples similar. This changes all that. With a new crop, which creates the best foods, yet requiring a lot of cocoa beans, this allows for farmers to thrive, because cooks now need a butload of these new cocoa bean thingymabobs, and the only people who can deliver is the farmers, who have large farms. No longer is paradise island a one stop shop for a lifetime supply of everything a cook ever needs. The new cocoa pod means that you need a lot of trees worth of cocoa for the chocolate, which Mother Nature (in all her OPness) cannot provide. '''I don't get what's with you and "Farming with its 'child skill; cooking'". Like what the hell, just stop, you made a thread about this already. And it was denied, but you want it, I'll criticise this thingy to show you it's just bad... really bad. Firstly, I don't get the whole concept of the "Farmer's Thriving" thingy. Any farmer, without Cocoa Pods or not, can easily master the farming skill and get it to Eleven easily. Second, a cook can master his arts without having to have the farmers bring him the Cocoa Pods. Because still, there are another foods, and one of them is called "Pie" and it has two sorts, Berry Pies and Apple Pies. In which the best one, the Apple Pie, restores 190 Hunger points. So let's sum this up. The Cocoa Pods needs Farming skill level of five to re-plant, and it also needs level four or more to make something from. While the pies only need like Cooking skill of four to make Berry Pie, now let me introduce you to the Berry Pie. A food item which needs cooking level of four, and replinishes the same Hunger points that the level Five Choclate does, which is 150 Hunger points. How come! Black Majik!

The cooking skill was always one dimensional. "Do tedious work, get good food." is the one path of the chef. No longer is that the case. The chocolates are incredibly easy to make, especially when compared things like to the infamous craft-chain behemoth that is bread. The effort is now put on the farmers, who no longer create more wheat than any cook could use with a single harvest. Cooks now gets the extra option of "Do good farming, get good food.", and the bonus option of gathering milk for something less useless than cheese creation, which although in theory awesome, is hard to pull off, as cheese takes an age to create. This brings me onto my next point: '''Are you trying to buff and in the same time nerf the cooking skill? Do you know what that means?! Duh, chill. You are too angry. Just go kill all the cows at Mainland, one go... and you got a food supply, which supplies you for an hour, keep doing it. Now after you do this, you'll just make some extra stuff (Pies, Choclate) and trade it... like lol really'''

It makes cows good for more than just spawnkilling. Cows were always just a quick and easy food source for mithrilites. No longer the case with this new chocolate! The chocolate means that milk can be used for an easy to make and appealing in every way food source, instead of cheese, which is inferior to the "Use the iron to make a sword and hatchet, and spawnkill the cow instead of milk it." method. '''My post counters this. WHAT IS THE FREAKING POINT OF CHOCLATE IF YOU STILL CAN KILL THE COW BOTH WAYS?!?!?!?'''

Sorry for a late reply... I had to get away from my keyboard, to do stuff. Anyways, I'll comment back with more criticism as soon as possible... just give me a shout out and some time. :D