Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-14788207-20150309173649/@comment-24108228-20150309180333

Old post: You want ninjas? Sure, I guess ninja's are cool. Nonetheless, I'm not sure this is the way to go about it. The Katana is merely a superior alternative to the sword, and therefore a replacement. Stealth armour I feel should allow complete name hiding, while regular would be a 10 stud distance requirement for the name to be invisible. Stealth as a skill would be hard to implement, how would you raise it? The two ranged weapons are an extremely interesting concept, but should probably be merged into one since they're basically the same. I'll edit this post to give more detail.

I've spent some time to think about the concept, and I've come up with an idea: The Stealth Suit is an assasin's cloak, and is the only way to use the new weaponry effectively. Because if you think about it, something like that will be the only way to balance the new weapons, which are currently just buffed up versions of the current weapons.

It would work like the following; you can use the katana any time you like, but it will have an identical use time to a sword, and deal identical damage. It's merely an expensive new texture of the sword. However, when you use it with the stealth suit, you get a doubled reload time. You can also make it out of bluesteel now, but the bluesteel reload still applies. It therefore will still be slower than all the other katanas, and possibly even the other swords, making the ineffectivity previously demonstrated through "You Can't Craft This" now imposed through the way the weapon works. The weapon could be made, but the weight makes it ineffective for it's purpose, quickly killing things.

For realism, the weapon is light enough to be used much faster, but your clothing/armour is too poorly designed to take advantage of it, so it's just as fast as a sword anyway. The stealth suit is tailored to allow for quick movement of your arms, meaning you can swing it at maximised speed.

In the case of shrunkens, I can only see these being interesting if mithril or bluesteel versions became possible, otherwise they're merely a slightly modified bow. If we did that, I suppose shrunkens could be a mid ranged weapon, travelling about 30 studs maximum, and they only deal the full amount of damage when wearing stealth armour (otherwise they do the same amount of damage as a spear of that type). The small range stops the stealth suit from just being a boosted woven vest for the better ranged weapons, and the consistent reload (spear speed I would imagine) means that we can have quick reloading ranged weapons for short distances. As a side note, these should also compact into a single tool, so we get the "Shrunken" tool when you craft it and any more that are made get automatically placed into your current tool, with storage similar to arrows. Once you use them all, the tool disappears.

Now these may seem somewhat OP (a double speed sword and ranged weapons that are basically a spear with more damage and range), however it has to be noted that although you can get all this power, your health is now stuck at 130. What can one-shot this?

A mithril sword. A crossbow. Yewbeams with a woven vest & iron+ arrows. Any bluesteel weapon (excluding knives).

Now note that the new items are high end weaponry, costing a lot for a good one. With your pitiful health, even a tribe armed only with longbows could kill you if they saw you coming. Any group at the iron stage could easily kill you. Any tribe with a guard who has any of the aformentioned weapons could easily knock your head off. This armour also marks you as an assasin (it's obviously not for self defence, it's pitiful for anything that's not sneaky assassinations). It's only use is for skilled assasins who know what they're doing and how to hide in the dark, who want to kill a single (or possibly multiple if they're good) target. If you can get close to someone without them noticing, they're dead. A mithril katana will burn through health like nothing else, dual wield these and you've topped a maxed out Yewbeam with ease. By the time the player realises what's going on, they're already dead.

It's only for skilled players, but in the hands of a master, it's terrifying.