Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-25178962-20150615142220/@comment-25178962-20150627133637

Mr NotBanana, I understand you are upset at the idea of using expensive GP to destroy cheap composts. But are you upset at, say, spending a bomb if it meant getting through a medival wall? Those are arguably CHEAPER than than compost, not even requiring dedicated foraging to replace, so long as there are a few quarries thrown inside the fort. Explosives are simply the expensive answer to the hard questions in 303, and always have been.

And while your intentions are quite clear in pointing out these numbers, it also engenders the need for a compost building. Think back to your 2x2 farm that can feed a tribe of 5 for a half hour. Sure, it might not be much work in the set-up, but it requires enough space to put down four large composts. A canyon tribe wouldn't take kindly to such wanton cavern real estate use, nor would any other enclosed tribe except for possibly Magma. So then, these things are something to be out in the open, PERHAPS walled in.

And you are seeming to focus a lot on the cost of a single raid, when in fact after an initial raid, farms are still extremely vulnerable and trollable constructs. So in protecting a farm from drag tools and forage tools, I am not protecting the cost and labor of that farm. I am protecting that farm's cost and labor twenty times over (or however long it takes for the raider[s?] to get bored/farmer to RQ).

And you are seeming to focus a lot on investment versus return in your arguments for raiding. However, this point works against you. All players get a forage tool and a drag tool. A fresh spawn could destroy a farm much like your hypothetical uber-prepared raiders, so long as that fresh spawn kept out of the range of the farmer's ineffectual weapon of choice. In fact, a very wealthy, late game farmer would still be helpless to defend his farmland against a new spawn. Quite simply, this whole dichotomy you have set up, about return in investment for raid effectiveness, just doesn't add up. (plus, it might give popularity to 'occupying' since the farmland would be hard to destroy as opposed to 'hit and run' raids. You know, some variation never hurt nobody.)