Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-24542952-20140510202201/@comment-24108228-20140512204649

Minminopop wrote: NoBanana wrote: Firstly, your great grandfather clock is excessive, and the ingredients required to make it wouldn't fit in the crafting GUI.

Fixed, others were also saying

Ok, I got nothing on that anymore.

Secondly, if I dropped you on a deserted island, and gave you the resources, would you be able to make Big Ben, or even a regular grandfather clock? No.

We can't really melt steel and iron with leaves on a deserted island but can be done in 303. Same goes for this and other stuff.

'''That's not the point I was trying to get at. According to scarfion logic, there is no timeframe. Yes, despite I keep switching on my standpoint on this controversial idea to aid in my winning of suggestion arguments, I am starting to see the logic in scars reasoning. It does explain (most) of our "Flukes", such as coin presses, and bombs. When I said "Leave a man on a deserted island and they can't build Big-Ben, that wasn't me pointing out a realism flaw. That was me referencing that a regular man doesn't know enough to make a structure so big and complex. This is clockwork that is built to keep time. You have to know about pendulum physics. If you don't know how a pendulum works, you can't keep time. That's the point of a clock, is it not?'''

And for your aesthetic value in the regular grandfather clock, it would be useless. The only building I can fit it in is the sandstone hall, or the stone hall, both almost never seen, as the medieval house is better. It would look rather terrible just randomly placed outside a house.

I made it a few studs smaller than a hut, happy?

'''Likewise with my first response. Its good to know you adapt instead of protest. Although I do kinda want to see a model now, and an exact stud height. Will the clock hands move?'''

And who wants to spend 3 iron sprucing up a home? Give three iron to your architect you could get three spear walls. Much better.

Iron is EASY to get. I could get 3 with a stone pickaxe in 30-60 seconds.

'''I beg to differ. Sure, you could get three if you spend a minute tediously bashing iron ore with a stone pickaxe, but your making a rather large assumption. Your assuming that you have iron ore to bash in the first place. '''Ok, so firstly you will have to be on an island with iron ore on it. If your not, I seriously doubt you are in a position to spend an iron/steel sword and a iron/steel pickaxe's worth of iron to make a clock. Sure, I can understand the big ben's aethetic value. I would personally love to have a gigantic clock tower in the middle of my town, and once I am at the "Ok, let's make some massive showy offy building to attract visitors" stage, five iron isn't that much. Sure, it would require effort to head to an iron vein, but for the biggest tower in the game, that's a price I am willing to pay. '''However, for a stick of wood smaller than a hut, with a few extra stuff stuck on, three iron just isn't worth it. If I have three iron to spare, I could do the following things: '''It just isn't worth it. Sure, if I am a tribe that lives on rockma that would be cheap, but in six months of playing I have only ever seen one sucessful rockma tribe. Others just crumbled at the lack of food. And don't reply "Oh, but magma is a common settlement". Magma is only settled on by hardcore raiders, or people who want to get lots of explosives or something. Not by a friendly tribe that wants to look pretty so people want to join them. Mainland needs lanterns, and has better uses for their iron, and flax doesn't have enough iron to get spares. Iron just ain't that common.
 * '''Make a crude milking pale and a cheese bin, and make some mozzarella. What tribe doesn't like cheese?
 * '''If I have three coal (which I probably will if I'm the sort of person to have three iron lying around), I could make a crossbow with three bolts. Raider ownage!
 * '''Keep so I can save up for a great grandfather clock, which is far superior and actually useful somewhat for getting attention.
 * '''Make three spear walls, which, albeit rather conditional, at least make you look more professional than putting a small clock somewhere which everyone won't notice anyway.