Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-24830423-20140429033950/@comment-24906136-20140516224258

NoBanana wrote:

Three0threesurvivor wrote: They are passive aggresive but out of the way.

1st of all

The rat was added to spread disease and add to the underused sabotage and biological warfare aspect of the game, allowing you to kill your enemies without them ever knowing who did it.

'''Firstly, if I find a rat cage and 4 rats on my island, I expect poisoned food. Secondly, do you remember the old chicken coops? They really made life dreadful. Didn't you hate arriving on an island to find it infested with eggs? Well it will be the same here, but with rat cages and rats. And instead of an annoyance, they prevent you from eating anything.'''

'''You won’t find rats and poisoned food on the same island. The rats would eat the poisoned food or the poisoned food would have enough portions to kill all the rats. p= portions of poisoned food r= number of rats. r - p = portions of food remaining. Rats have 10 HP so you can kill them with a stick. Dirt cheap. And just like the lynxes they would be easily blocked off. They would also give another use to the table because they wouldn't be able to reach stuff on the table. Eggs could be picked up and rats can be exterminated. This is also why i put a time limit on how often rats can be spawned from a rat cage. '''

2nd of all

No i really dont understand verry many scripts and such. I learn on the job.

Ok, so we win here.

3rd of all

Rats eat bugs and plants. '''Already a problem. Rats will eat what they find, whether it be meat, nuts, fruit, or cheese. However, they are very unlikely to hunt, including bugs, unless in a pinch.'''

They survive on spring becuse of the carrots. '''The best of the lot, but still flawed. Only carrots? A rat needs more than that. Protein anybody?'''

'''Yeah so? Chickens survive on only corn. Rockmas survive on sand and rocks. Bento survive on a couple of berry bushes. This would be no different. '''

They survive on lynx because rats eat flax. it would also provide a realistic food source for the lynxes.'''Flax isn't nearly nutritional enough to host an animal living off it. Lynx eat the yummy cat-food people leave them by the way, before you start complaining. They also eat fish, but that's a more minimal part of their diet. '''

'''Rats can eat cat food. It’s not good for them but they do eat it. They would also eat the leftovers from the fish along with the flax and bugs. And the lynxes won't eat the rats when they come to scavenge on the fish because they're already full on fish. '''

They survive on magma because they eat bugs. Currently, the cave lynx dont have a food source, unlike every other animal in the game.'''This is why I brought that stuff about bugs up at the start of the post. Sure, a rat could eat bugs along with fruit, but not instead-of it. Rats are scavengers, not hunters, they aren't built for a life of hunting for food, especially when that also means running away from the evil confused and mislead lynx.'''

'''When the lynxes go after the rats they would just retreat to their hole where the kitties can’t get at them. Or if theyr'e to slow they get eaten. And the rats eat the scraps people leave behind. '''

I dunno about spire. Maybe they dont spawn there? '''Isn't that the original question they asked you on this topic? And you completely ignored desert.'''

'''Ok so they won't spawn on spire plateu or desert. Problem solved. ''' Furthermore, there is a massive glaring flaw in this. Imagine this:

New Player: Wow, this game is great so far! I think I'll explore some other islands now!

The new player swims from mainland to spring island.

New Player: Ooh, my hunger is really low! I need to eat something.'''  New Player:''' Hey, there is tons of carrots over there! Yummy!

The new player eats all the carrots.

New Player: Wait, what! Why is my health going down! Why is my screen tinted green! Why am I moving so slowly!

The new player dies.

New Player: WHY DID I DIE? THIS GAME IS SO DUMB! VEGETABLES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD FOR YOU!

'''The new player ragequits, leaves an angry comment to deter more potential players, and is never seen again. '''

'''I'm changing my idea to make it work. Rats will not eat the food that natrually spawns. They will "eat" the foods that werent foraged when the game regenerates. Rats also hoard food so if they go without new food for a while they wont die. '''

Moral of the story? You will never be able to eat natural food on an island that doesn't have a spawn ever again. Result? Tribes have to: '''1 Sure they could do that. Or they could move to Plateau. '''
 * 1) Live at desert or spire. Not recommended.
 * 2) Live at an island with nubs spawning on it 24/7 . Also not recommended.
 * 3) Have a dedicated member of your tribe run around killing rats that spawn. That's really not ideal either.
 * 4) Ignore any food provided by the great Mother Nature, hire a dedicated fisher (cooks need wheat, and wheat gets contaminated), and whenever someone gets hungry, quickly have them place the fish, cook it, and get it eaten before a rat comes and haves a bite. For some reason, I doubt tribes will want to do that.
 * 5) Split up and be nomadic, and get the perk of having no rats, along with getting natural food. Oh, wait, now we have no tribes anymore.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">'''<span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(255,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap;">2 You're assuming all tribes are hostile. Most tribes will co-operate with spawners. Or they will put a hut and a structure wall over the spawn. '''

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">'''<span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(255,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap;">3 Block off the rat hole with a bush stump. '''

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">'''<span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(255,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap;">4 Another use for the table! Actually putting food on it! Oh and the stove to! The rats won't be able to get at food on those. And if you're using leaves to cook the rat still won't be able to get at it. This is also realistic because their instinct will tell them to not go near a large fire. '''

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">'''<span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(255,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap;">5 No longer a problem. ''' <span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(255,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap;"> You might as well take all the food off islands that don't have spawnpoints because it will all be inedible. Rats are a pest. Rats are useless.

Rats are filler.

'''<span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(255,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap;">Rats are not filler. They have uses. '''

'''<span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(255,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap;">Yes, rats are a pain, thats the point of a pest. '''