Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-25246516-20140731004507/@comment-25411747-20140801040754

NoBanana wrote:

Fireburn2500 wrote: I got ideas like lead, tin, silver, copper, and blacksteel like tin is the lowest metal tier who doesn't need anvil and same with copper as the 2nd lowest tier who also doesn't need anvil but tin is in between iron and steel and blacksteel being the best better than bluesteel so sadly if It was added I cant show you of my idea for its location Since your new here, if we all say "Lolno" and lock the thread, you probably wont quite understand what just happened.

Lead
Ignoring the glaring issue of lead poisoning killing anyone who holds the sword, a lead tool set would probably be very weak, as lead is soft and easy to mould (assuming you don't die first). It is also remarkably heavy, so here would be some reasonable stats. Since the armour actually removes health (anyone who coats themself in lead is a walking corpse), and the tools have a longer reload time (similar to bluesteel), the lead ore would be worth less than the stone you find it in.

Tin and Copper
Something reasonable now. Ok. Well, you state that tin is stronger than iron, although less strong than steel. This gives rise to the question:

Why bother with iron?

You don't need a forge, it's more effective, and it has a side effect of being used in the bronze recipe (face it, you cant add copper and tin without making a bronze recipe). It's in every way better than iron. The only use of iron would be to collect a couple once you have a load of copper tools, which you also don't need an anvil for and would be better than steel (you cant fit in two tiers in that tiny gap). Bottom line, it would be overpowered and ruin a large chunk of the game.

Blacksteel
Ok, so your saying we add a new type of steel. Totally original.

More to the point, you would yet again ruin another large part of our combat system, the mithril vs bluesteel part. Mithril has a fast reload and more DPS. Bluesteel has a initial higher damage (and is mostly useless otherwise due to its lack of ranged weaponry). Many people choose different sides as to which is the best metal in the game, and occasionally large wars break out over this subject.

If we had Blacksteel, basically another mithril, everyone would just be like:

"Well, I was doing special and clever stuff to find the best of both worlds, but now we have this god metal I'll just make all my tools out of this."

Which is less fun for everyone.

Tl:Dr All your metals are flawed. In fact, all new metals are mostly flawed. I wouldn't try again on this subject. The tools wouldn't kill you. i could stand next to a pile of lead and be perfectly fine. if i ingest it, however, THATS when i start to feel the effects.